In a long-overdue episode of the National Rural Education Association, we interview author and Planning Director of the Caswell County Planning Department in Yanceyville, North Carolina, Matthew Hoagland. In his recent book Think Small: A Millennial's Guide to Building a Meaningful Life in Rural America proposes a paradigm shift in many college graduate students' mindset. As many graduates are strapped with record student loan debt coupled with low wage opportunities, Rural America is becoming a new alternative to urban-based careers and lifestyle. A Western Carolina Native, Matthew realized small has immense potential as rural America provides the perfect way to find meaning in American life's hectic nature. Rural America offers an alternative. In this episode, we explore these reflections with Matthew regarding rural America, and the role of elementary and secondary education in finding revolutionary new meaning is a highly competitive and globalized world. For more information on Matthew's Book, go to https://www.howtothinksmall.com/ Win Learning sponsors the Rural Education Education Association Podcast. Please visit their website at https://www.winlearning.com/nrea